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DATING & IDENTIFYING
JONES HAND MACHINES
PART 3
from 1884 c. to 1890 c.
Type 8 from # 44.886 (1884 c.) to # 91.804 (1890 c.)
Type 9 # 93.143 (1890 c.)
Jones ?!
click the image to see the bobbin winder
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Part 3 include machines with the following features:
nickeled Face Plate
" JONES HAND MACHINE " decal on the Machine Bed
Two company trade mark on the Cloth Plate:
"Jones & Co. Guide Bridge Near Manchester"
"As supplied to H.R.H. the Princess of Wales"
Balance Wheel painted black or nickeled
"The Vine Leaf" decal on the Arm of Machine will change at one point
different decals on the edge of the Machine Bed
some machines with the Large Oil Dripper underneath
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Type 8
Last recorded brassed faceplate Hand machine, shown in Jones Hand Machine Part 2, come with the serial number 39.180. The above Jones Hand machines, with serial number 44.886, is the first recorded with a nickeled face-plate.
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LABELLED OR NOT LABELLED ?
ECLIPSE MACHINE
Shepherd, Rothwell & Hough
Jones "hand" by Shepherd, Rothwell & Hough, Oldham Sewing Machines Works, Comwell Strett, Oldham. Serial number 257. Year of construction ca 1890.
ECLIPSE MACHINE
Shepherd, Rothwell & Hough
# 10.166
Type 8
JONES
HAND R.S. MACHINE
Type 8
JONES
HAND R.S. MACHINE
Type 8
JONES
HAND R.S. MACHINE
Type 8
JONES
HAND R.S. MACHINE
Type 8
JONES
HAND R.S. MACHINE
Type 8
without the Large Oil Dripper
JONES
HAND R.S. MACHINE
Type 8
without the Large Oil Dripper
JONES
HAND R.S. MACHINE
Type 8
without the Large Oil Dripper
JONES
HAND R.S. MACHINE
Type 8
without the Large Oil Dripper
JONES
HAND R.S. MACHINE
Type 8
Large Oil Dripper
JONES
HAND R.S. MACHINE
Type 8
The archived pictures, clearly show only one Trademark
JONES
HAND R.S. MACHINE
Type 8
Last Recorded
The archived pictures, clearly show only one Trademark
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March
1890
TESTIMONIAL
New photographic evidences shown that the engraved stamp on the round Cloth-Plate "AS SUPPLIED TO H.R.H. THE PRINCESS OF WALES", was added before the bed decal was replaced with the brass badge (medallion).
Type 9
First sewing machine recorded with the "Phoenix" and "Princess of Wales" Trademarks on the Cloth-Plate
# 90.000 *******************************
# 91.804 ..... Last recorded ..... Type 8
1890
# 93.143 ..... First recorded ..... Type 9*
# 93.704 ..... First recorded ..... Type 10*
# 94.078 .................................. Type 10*
# 94.254 .................................. Type 10*
* "As supplied to H.R.H. the Princess of Wales"
# 98.000 *******************************
THIS WEB-PAGE IS "JONES HAND MACHINES PART 3"
from 1884 c. to 1890 c.
Type 8 from # 44.886 (1884 c.) to # 91.804 (1890 c.)
Type 9 # 93.143 (1890 c.)
QUICK DATING
JONES HAND MACHINES
# 000 ********************************
# 161 ..... First recorded ...... Type 5
# 1.033 ..... Last recorded ....... Type 5
1879
# 2.281 ...... First recorded ...... Type 6
# 5.000 *******************************
1880
# 10.000 *******************************
1881
# 15.000 *******************************
1882
# 21.000 *******************************
# 25.194 ..... Last recorded ...... Type 6
1883
# 27.928 ..... First recorded ...... Type 7
# 30.000 *******************************
1884
# 39.180 ..... Last recorded ...... Type 7
# 40.000 *******************************
# 44.886 ..... First recorded ...... Type 8
1885
# 50.000 *******************************
1886
# 60.000 *******************************
1887
# 70.000 *******************************
1888
# 80.000 *******************************
1889
# 90.000 *******************************
# 91.804 ..... Last recorded ..... Type 8
1890
# 93.143 ..... First recorded ..... Type 9*
# 93.704 ..... First recorded ..... Type 10*
# 94.078 .................................. Type 10*
# 94.254 .................................. Type 10*
* "As supplied to H.R.H. the Princess of Wales"
# 98.000 *******************************
1891
# 106.000 *******************************
# 107.585 .... Last Recorded .... Type 10*
1892
# 114.000 *******************************
# 114.585 .... First recorded .... Type 10 var.1*
# 116.688 .... First recorded .... Type 10 var.2*
1893
# 118.697 .... First recorded .... Type 11*
# 120.348 .... Last Recorded .... Type 11*
# 122.000 *******************************
1894
# 130.000 *******************************
# 136.348 .... Last Recorded .... Type 10 var.2*
* "As supplied to H.R.H. the Princess of Wales"
1895
# 138.000 *******************************
1896
# 146.000 *******************************
1897
# .000 *******************************
1898
# .000 *******************************
1899
# .000 *******************************
1900
# .000 *******************************
1901
# .000 *******************************